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July 3, 2024 - 7:00am
The election in 2010 was meant to be a nadir, of sorts, when the combined vote of Labour and the Tories fell to its lowest ebb since 1918 — with Cleggmania inching the Liberal Democrats beyond even the giddy heights of opposition to Iraq.
To many this demonstrated that voters were becoming more “polyamorous” — and that even the toughest “heartland” could be rendered soft. Although the next election saw a slight bump for the “big two”, the collapse of the Lib Dems happened alongside the Greens amassing a million votes, Ukip capturing nearly four million, and the SNP winning almost every seat in Scotland in 2015.
The following election in 2017 was the great exception. Despite the media instructing the public that Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May were useless and not “electable”, the combined vote of the parties they led hit 84%. But that proved a blip, and the old trend soon returned. Indeed, this week’s election, if some pollsters are correct, could outdo 2010, with the combined vote of the two major parties falling to their lowest levels in more than a century.
Unlike in 2010, however, this year’s trend has been driven by non-established parties, specifically the Greens and Reform UK. Independent candidates may not win in many places, but they are set to win a record number of votes nationally.
All of this also raises questions regarding Labour’s mandate to govern. After all, Keir Starmer could be set for a majority in the hundreds while plausibly winning fewer votes than Corbyn seven years ago. One YouGov poll, which put Labour on 36% (equidistant between their 2017 and 2019 showings) even furnished the party with a majority of 244 — the largest enjoyed by a single party in history. The closest comparison would be 1931, when the Tories were the last party to win an overall majority of votes.
One can answer that such a huge majority — larger than anything achieved by Baldwin, Attlee, Thatcher or Blair — is simply a fair reflection of what would be a stunning margin of victory. Westminster, after all, is often a “winner-takes-all” system, and triumphing by double digits over the runner-up will produce strange results. But again, this was designed for a world of two parties and high turnout — neither of which is likely to prevail on Thursday. If Starmer gets anything like the polling predicts, it’s hard to see how a crisis of legitimacy (ironically) doesn’t ensue for the rest of this decade.
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SubscribeStarmer and Labour terrify but even more terrifying is that the Tories are so pathetic that their destruction is even more important than keeping Labour out.
If Starmer is a real democrat he should restrict his actions due to thus illegitimacy. He won’t and we need to prepare for the end of Britain.
But Starmer is not a real democrat as Labour (apparently) intend to outsource government to unelected commissions and regulatory bodies.
Like the Supreme Court, that has already – under the Tories – forbidden any British Government from developing Britain’s fossil fuel capacities.
Which is a judicial decision that any government would find hard to reverse.
British Governments are formed by the Party that wins most seats in the House of Commons. If a Party has such a majority, the resultant government is “Legitimate”, however much some people might not like it. The alternative is the system that prevails in much of Europe, which I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy (or even on Europe, for that matter).
Nonsense. This is the way our system works. As approved at the AV referendum in around 2015.
I’m resigned to a huge Labour win. But the bigger the win, the less the chance of Labour being able to blame others when they fail. I’m more concerned about the consitutional damage they may inflict. The road to hell … and they have just so many good intentions and so little experience of running things in practice.
Indeed. Those in power always regard their power as legitimate however they achieve it.
The biggest threat to the government of the Great Obfuscator is the mind-numbing inc
oherence of his own platform:
– We’ll fix the housing crisis whilst doing nothing to limit immigration. Not doable.
– We’ll revive the economy whilst de-carbonising the grid. Not even slightly doable.
– We’ll negotiate a better deal with the EU without accepting free movement. Not doable.
– I’ve decided, after all, that most women don’t have willies, but we’ll punish anyone who says so or who tries to prevent their child from being sterilised.
– We believe in freedom of speech, but don’t be rude about dumb mediaeval superstitions or we’ll put you in jail.
What we’ve just witnessed is the most profoundly dishonest election campaign in our history.
Actually the most dishonest was 2019 – that’s when the entire Establishment focused on something that simply didn’t exist – Labour’s allegedly rife antisemitism.
The downvotes reflect the false nature of your post – the far left is as antisemitic as the far right. Have you ever any Marx?
Well said. Stepping back, it is evident that a wholesale crisis of legitimacy has swamped our system – and will wash away political parties like the Conservatives that – impossibly as we shall see – straddle the Great Divide. There are the all powerful Progressive forces – the permanent State, Labour, Lib Dem, Greens who all stand for the imposition of multiculturalism, open borders and Eco/Green madness. They all are extreme identitarian ideologues on race gender and raycist whites and all believe in the EU Empire, socialism, wealth redistribution and the NHS. Against them should be opponents of the above..but – incredibly – there is no political army on the field. Only an unprepared immature Reform stand for wealth creation, the nation state and a coherent response to the extreme progressive ideology. As we know, the Fake Tories were Progressive Quislings and so will be extirpated for their great betrayal tomorrow. I believe a clear majority are hostile to the Progressive ideology so carefully and cynically masked by the mendacious Starmer. We have five short years for a new credible political force on the centre right to be created to address this black hole in party politics and overriding burning intolerable legitimacy crisis.
The EU doesn’t have the bandwidth to revisit Brexit in any case. Too many of its own problems and increasing fragementation of views. There’s no upside for them.
The UK re-joining would bring more income to the EU. They probably wouldn’t refuse that, especially on the re-joining terms they will impose.
No one’s talking about rejoining (same/worse terms at increased cost + have to join the Euro would be a really tough sell). This is about changing the current arrangements – what the EU used to call “cherry picking”.
I think we should definitely re-join the EU. If only for the comic value of the watching the Remoaners squeal in horror as France under Le Pen pull out, heheheheh!
Probably a landslide victory for “non of the above” if that were an option!
It’s a fun thought… Would it be possible to implement a “none of the above” option on the ballot? I think it would win most races, most of the time. What would that mean practically? An empty seat? Interesting thought experiment.
What “legitimacy”?
This is a terrific rebuttal of Bastani by a very articulate youngster.
https://open.substack.com/pub/mattgoodwin/p/the-uniparty-has-nothing-to-offer?r=1fl6hp&utm_medium=ios
Wow. That is a superb article. Miles better than anything in UnHerd for ages.
I urge everybody to read it.
That is as bleak as anything I have ever read.
I don’t agree with him but the story he’s telling is an old one.
After the financial crisis, it was obvious that the west was screwing its young people. A political movement arose to address those concerns but, instead of embracing it, the establishment moved to crush it.
15 years on, things are worse than ever for younger people and, since the left failed to break through, young people are willing to give the right a whirl.
I think he’s profoundly mistaken in his belief that Johnson governed as Corbyn might have. And that’s far from the only thing he’s wrong about but I can see how he ends up where he is.
‘I mean how could this have happened to us on the Right? Such a terrible Man and such a terrible Labour Party…how on earth? I mean we’ve had 14 years to bury the Centrists and Leftists once and for all. We own most of the media. We even invested in additional media such as Unherd. And yet here we are. I don’t get it. Thank goodness we’ve invested so much time in conspiracies and scapegoat excuses. Otherwise we really would be looking like we hadn’t a clue’
Trouble is, your liberal friends don’t have a clue either.
btw conspiracy theories and scapegoats come usually from the liberals – look at the Remoaners and Brexit or the Democrats and Trump.
You seem to have gone from reasoned critiques from the left, that I often found informative, to a kind of tribal “Yay we’re winning, yah boo sucks to you.” Champagne Socialist does moronism much better.
One reason the Tories will get hammered is because they aren’t right wing. See the link I posted below for what right wing looks like. If you’re expecting anything materially different or intellectually coherent from Starmer you’re going to be disappointed.
As for “we own most of the media.” On what planet?
I’m never entirely sure what is meant by the Left these days. It’s also debatable how Left a Starmer Govt might actually be. Furthermore ‘Economic’ Left and ‘Woke’ Left aren’t always great bed-fellows. I’m no great fan of identity politics.
But the main story tmoro is likely to be the end of a 14yr Right wing project. Some folks will contend it was never Right wing, others will say ‘oh yes it was’. And the debate will continue I’m sure.
You don’t get much do you JW must be all that projection. I see you managed to shoehorn in “scapegoat” again.
Had you in mind AR.
Very kind of you JW.
If a Starmer government gets a 200+ seat majority, will the Left still trot out “The tyranny of the majority”, and claim it has a mandate with c40% of the vote.
Think 40% they’ll be fairly pleased AR, but yes it’s not a comfortable position and I think Starmer smart enough to recognise some responsibility would come with it.
I suspect though an early push on more devolution and something about HoL. Thus diffusing power and reducing patronage.
How dreary.
But you read, and pondered long enough to comment. I’ll take that.
Excellent. If the party doesn’t have a 50 percent plus majority of the votes, how can they legitimately set the agenda/laws for the people is an age-old question? The answer is and always has been, that they can’t but they will even if they have to pander and sell out their values/integrity to opposition parties to govern. These opposition parties, then become the majority player even if they only garnered 15% of the vote. If I were king, no election could be certified until one party received over 50% of the vote, no matter how long it takes. Male the people responsible for electing their leaders.