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The nihilism of hiring a hitman Young men are being groomed into boy soldiers

A telling metaphor of modern Britain (Getty)

A telling metaphor of modern Britain (Getty)


April 4, 2023   5 mins

It’s not every day that a close relative describes how they were once the subject of a $10,000 hit job. But this shady chapter of my family’s history came to light over the weekend during a long-distance telephone conversation about Thomas Cashman, who was yesterday handed a life sentence for the murder of nine-year-old Olivia Pratt-Korbel.

While my relative’s case involved an international business deal gone wrong, and bizarrely the middleman who brokered the hit became the gunman’s new target after his client reneged on a $2,000 payment, the reality of the average contract killing is very different. More often that not, it takes the form of a free-for-all in which innocent people die and morally repugnant paymasters get away with murder. As Olivia’s death in Dovecot, Liverpool, last August made clear, the world occupied by hitmen is underscored by nihilistic chaos.

Cashman, himself the 34-year-old father of two young children, had reportedly been offered £100,000 by his underworld bosses to kill Joseph Nee, a rival villain who Cashman’s associates claimed had stolen a sizeable drugs stash. During the botched hit, Nee, chased by Cashman, barged through the Korbels’ front door just as Olivia’s mother opened it to investigate the commotion outside. As Cashman continued to fire indiscriminately, a bullet hit Olivia in the chest. According to the front page of yesterday’s Sun, “gangland figures” have placed a £250,000 bounty on Cashman’s head — not as payback for murdering an innocent child, but to prevent him from revealing their identities in a feeble attempt to reduce his sentence.

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Whether it’s an East End thing, a tabloid hack thing, or simply a morbid fascination with organised crime, I’ve never been too far away from the shadowy world of the contract killer. As a kid in the Seventies, when my family lived in New York, my mother worked for an Italian family who had a “connection” to those responsible for “whacking” mob boss Carmine “Cigar” Galante. More recently, I interviewed an ex-soldier who used to do some “work” for a notorious North London crime family before the nightmares became too much and he packed it all in. The activity of his bosses had been an obsession of the late crime writer and reformed gangster, John McVicar. John told me that he’d been warned by one of “the family’s” consiglieres to watch his back after their name kept cropping up in the column he wrote for Punch magazine. Not long after, said consigliere wound up getting whacked by a hitman on a motorcycle.

Such murders are, in criminal terms, at the Premier League-level of contract killings. Many of these hits go unsolved because the bike-riding masked assassins know what they’re doing, thanks to training, practice and experience. But such characters are few and far between. More often than not, lower-league criminals recruit hitmen from among the even lower-league “mandem” or assorted gangs that crop up all over poverty-stricken Britain. This recruiting ground has a constant supply of young, desperate, violent and, importantly, cheap contract killers.

Today, they are only getting younger and more desperate. Right now, a 15-year-old named Santre Gayle, jailed in 2011, is believed to be Britain’s youngest contract killer. He’s certainly the youngest that we know of. But several organised crime sources have told me — all with the same sick, macabre pride — that they have groomed 12, 13 and 14-year-olds to do their dirty work for next-to-nothing. When I mentioned to one that Gayle was paid a measly £200 to shoot dead a woman on her doorstep, apparently as a revenge attack sanctioned by an ex-partner with connections to London’s Turkish underworld, he joked that he “got over the odds”.

While politicians and the media fulminate over Muslim grooming gangs because it is an obvious, reactionary vote-winner, far less attention is paid to the other more organised, and often culturally removed, criminal subgroups involved in grooming young black boys as junior hitmen. Much of what passes, dismissively, as internecine street gang warfare in London, Birmingham and Manchester belies a grimy underworld in which black boys and white working-class boys are spotted, recruited, groomed and then exploited — not just as tools in the more commonly reported phenomenon of “county lines” drug dealing, but as urban boy soldiers.

It is, after all, a tried and tested method. As Issa Sesay, the jailed leader of Sierra Leone’s Revolutionary United Front (RUF), once told me, the modus operandi of the RUF had been to recruit boy soldiers barely into puberty because they were desperate, impressionable, and, crucially, loyal. It is this modus operandi that now plays a key role in the new breed of amateur hitman — kids who one minute are playing Call of Duty, and the next are looking at a life sentence for killing someone for £200. They are often forced into it by “olders” who bully, intimidate and even strong-arm family members into supporting them. Most vulnerable are single mothers, who can be easily targeted if their son doesn’t step up and do his master’s bidding.

And increasingly, this bidding is no longer confined to the criminal world. In this secular, morally relative world, it’s not just drug dealers and racketeers who “need someone taken care of” when things go sideways. The news is now filled with tawdry tales of foolishly desperate people — a property developer in debt; an obsessive work colleague; rumours of a jilted family member — who resort to backstreet hitmen to settle their scores. It’s a telling metaphor of modern Britain, where the dark side of social mobility dictates that shifty middle-class types, like traditional gangsters before them, now think they can buy their way out of trouble by getting someone else to do their dirty work.

Perhaps the most revealing example of this took place in 2002, when property investor Nicholas van Hoogstraten was jailed for manslaughter after paying some muscle to rough up a business associate, Mohammed Raja. While the courts accepted that “there is no evidence that he had intended Mr Raja to be murdered”, Raja was stabbed five times and shot in the head by two hitmen. That is the trouble with hired killers: as they are generally psychopathic, there is no legislating for what they might do on the job. This key detail is a point that even Boris Johnson overlooked when, in the Nineties, the Daily Telegraph’s then  Brussels correspondent reportedly conspired with an old Etonian buddy to have News of the World reporter Stuart Collier roughed up.

All too often, bourgeois types who enter into the murky world of contract killing swiftly find themselves in hot water. Patently, anyone who is prepared to kill someone for money is not only criminally minded, but criminally naïve. After all, professional hitmen don’t think twice about turning the gun on their client if they don’t pay up, or if bumping them off removes one key point in the evidential trail.

That’s probably why the wealthier gangs in Britain tend to outsource their dirty work. When I interviewed former North London gang leader Bobby Cummines for Channel 4’s Secrets of Police Marksman, he told me that one of the most fool-proof methods for contracting a hit involves setting up a reciprocal arrangement with foreign gangsters. If, for argument’s sake, your “firm” had a long-standing arrangement with a gang in The Netherlands and you wanted someone taken care of in the Midlands, you would fly one of their team over (all expenses paid) and supply them with necessaries, including firearms. They would then do the job and fly home the following day, making the hitman virtually untraceable.

But such cases make up a small minority. Far more common is the disordered, anarchic style of hit carried out by Cashman, whose gun initially jammed before he killed an innocent nine-year-old. In this way, Olivia’s death was of course a tragedy. But it was also an expression of nationwide nihilism: of the disregard some criminals have for innocent life, of the atomising chaos that inevitably follows, and of an anaesthetised society and political class that witnesses such violence before quickly turning the page.


David Matthews is an award-winning writer and filmmaker.

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Nell Clover
NC
Nell Clover
1 year ago

Fulminating over Muslim grooming gangs is a reactionary vote-winner?

Reactionary. Adj. Opposing political or social progress or reform.

Yes, you read it on Unherd. Getting angry about the targeted, racist, mass abuse of young children is to oppose social progress.

Jog on.

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
Reply to  Nell Clover

Yes a throwaway line to signal a right on point off view. The idea that people – even left leaning people – might be genuinely concerned about the tendency of those in authority to avoid confronting grooming and rape because of the perpetrator’s ethnicity doesn’t seem to figure here. It is just reactionaries who want to gain votes who are against grooming and rape. The author should properly consider what he writes, but he won’t because he is ideologically driven and protected by the powerful signal of virtue he radiates.

rob drummond
RD
rob drummond
1 year ago
Reply to  Nell Clover

Dismissing ”Muslim grooming gangs is a reactionary vote-winner” is quite shocking in itself frankly. Those gangs (and the others you mentioend) should be hunted down like the villians they are.
I would like to believe The Home Office statements on the Indian Sub-Continent / grooming culture / more Policing – but frankly ”I have heard it all before”

Last edited 1 year ago by rob drummond
R S Foster
R S Foster
1 year ago
Reply to  rob drummond

…not least because their victims are both innocent and vulnerable. Young male thugs of any background or ethnicity are more than happy to dish it out…so deserving of vastly less sympathy when they are on the receiving end. Although I feel some limited sympathy for their grieving mothers…none whatsover for their feral fathers…

R S Foster
RF
R S Foster
1 year ago
Reply to  rob drummond

…not least because their victims are both innocent and vulnerable. Young male thugs of any background or ethnicity are more than happy to dish it out…so deserving of vastly less sympathy when they are on the receiving end. Although I feel some limited sympathy for their grieving mothers…none whatsover for their feral fathers…

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
Reply to  Nell Clover

Yes a throwaway line to signal a right on point off view. The idea that people – even left leaning people – might be genuinely concerned about the tendency of those in authority to avoid confronting grooming and rape because of the perpetrator’s ethnicity doesn’t seem to figure here. It is just reactionaries who want to gain votes who are against grooming and rape. The author should properly consider what he writes, but he won’t because he is ideologically driven and protected by the powerful signal of virtue he radiates.

rob drummond
rob drummond
1 year ago
Reply to  Nell Clover

Dismissing ”Muslim grooming gangs is a reactionary vote-winner” is quite shocking in itself frankly. Those gangs (and the others you mentioend) should be hunted down like the villians they are.
I would like to believe The Home Office statements on the Indian Sub-Continent / grooming culture / more Policing – but frankly ”I have heard it all before”

Last edited 1 year ago by rob drummond
Nell Clover
Nell Clover
1 year ago

Fulminating over Muslim grooming gangs is a reactionary vote-winner?

Reactionary. Adj. Opposing political or social progress or reform.

Yes, you read it on Unherd. Getting angry about the targeted, racist, mass abuse of young children is to oppose social progress.

Jog on.

Elliott Bjorn
EB
Elliott Bjorn
1 year ago

If there was one thing, one huge thing, the pivotal thing…………………………..

Single Mothers……. The end of two parent, mother and father and their biological children, Families.

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
Reply to  Elliott Bjorn

Yes, as Thomas Sowell observes choices involve trade-offs. This is just the downside of being kinder and more understanding in respect of single mothers.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Elliott Bjorn

Single mothers are legitimately blamed for much that is wrong with society.
Growing up in a single-mother family is the worst possible start in life for any child.

Pabs Dabs
Pabs Dabs
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Never fail to be amazed by the reactionary piffle expostulated in the messageboard on this site. Many of the articles are very thoughtful and balanced, the reactions are more often a monstrous caricature.

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago
Reply to  Pabs Dabs

Whilst I do agree with you that there does tend to be some reactionary comments on this site, none-the-less what Mr Shaw writes is mostly correct – a great deal of research has shown that growing up in a one-parent family is connected with numerous life disadvantages. Of course, if one is brought up in an impoverished environment this only magnifies the diadvantages, and it is possible (probable?) that living in such impoverished, chaotic situations is more likely to create single parents, so tackling the problems may need a two-pronged approach looking at both poverty ansd “culture”.

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  Pabs Dabs

Raised by a single mum myself. Many women undervalue the role a good father has on a boy’s upbringing.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
Reply to  Pabs Dabs

Expostulated?

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago
Reply to  Pabs Dabs

Whilst I do agree with you that there does tend to be some reactionary comments on this site, none-the-less what Mr Shaw writes is mostly correct – a great deal of research has shown that growing up in a one-parent family is connected with numerous life disadvantages. Of course, if one is brought up in an impoverished environment this only magnifies the diadvantages, and it is possible (probable?) that living in such impoverished, chaotic situations is more likely to create single parents, so tackling the problems may need a two-pronged approach looking at both poverty ansd “culture”.

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  Pabs Dabs

Raised by a single mum myself. Many women undervalue the role a good father has on a boy’s upbringing.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
1 year ago
Reply to  Pabs Dabs

Expostulated?

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Perhaps the father who disappears also has something to do with it.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

Due to advances in DNA etc it should be possible to hunt down those errant fathers and chastise them accordingly. “Sine Missione”. preferably.

D Glover
DG
D Glover
1 year ago

How would you feel if the state took and kept DNA for every male over 12? There would have to be ID cards as well, to tie each male to his genetic identity.
You OK with that?

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  D Glover

Definitely!
It should be mandatory that ‘it’ is taken at birth, with no exceptions whatsoever.

chris sullivan
chris sullivan
1 year ago

it is called responsible procreation – a responsibility NOT a right….

chris sullivan
CS
chris sullivan
1 year ago

it is called responsible procreation – a responsibility NOT a right….

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago
Reply to  D Glover

Definitely!
It should be mandatory that ‘it’ is taken at birth, with no exceptions whatsoever.

D Glover
D Glover
1 year ago

How would you feel if the state took and kept DNA for every male over 12? There would have to be ID cards as well, to tie each male to his genetic identity.
You OK with that?

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
1 year ago

Due to advances in DNA etc it should be possible to hunt down those errant fathers and chastise them accordingly. “Sine Missione”. preferably.

Pabs Dabs
PD
Pabs Dabs
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Never fail to be amazed by the reactionary piffle expostulated in the messageboard on this site. Many of the articles are very thoughtful and balanced, the reactions are more often a monstrous caricature.

Linda Hutchinson
Linda Hutchinson
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Perhaps the father who disappears also has something to do with it.

Geraldine Kelley
Geraldine Kelley
1 year ago
Reply to  Elliott Bjorn

My exact thought on reading this.

Jeremy Bray
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
Reply to  Elliott Bjorn

Yes, as Thomas Sowell observes choices involve trade-offs. This is just the downside of being kinder and more understanding in respect of single mothers.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Elliott Bjorn

Single mothers are legitimately blamed for much that is wrong with society.
Growing up in a single-mother family is the worst possible start in life for any child.

Geraldine Kelley
Geraldine Kelley
1 year ago
Reply to  Elliott Bjorn

My exact thought on reading this.

Elliott Bjorn
Elliott Bjorn
1 year ago

If there was one thing, one huge thing, the pivotal thing…………………………..

Single Mothers……. The end of two parent, mother and father and their biological children, Families.

Matt Hindman
Matt Hindman
1 year ago

I am too jaded these days for much to get to me, but that was just depressing to read.

Elliott Bjorn
Elliott Bjorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

I do not really remember this all before Blair opened the borders.

Elliott Bjorn
Elliott Bjorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

I do not really remember this all before Blair opened the borders.

Matt Hindman
Matt Hindman
1 year ago

I am too jaded these days for much to get to me, but that was just depressing to read.

Michael Hollick
Michael Hollick
1 year ago

While politicians and the media fulminate over Muslim grooming gangs because it is an obvious, reactionary vote-winner,
Presumably, this article has passed by an editor of some description – in which case I’m pretty stunned that such a crass comment has made it to publication. I really expect better for my subscription. Disgraceful.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
NS
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

Its called free speech, Bollick…

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

Its called free speech, Bollick…

Michael Hollick
Michael Hollick
1 year ago

While politicians and the media fulminate over Muslim grooming gangs because it is an obvious, reactionary vote-winner,
Presumably, this article has passed by an editor of some description – in which case I’m pretty stunned that such a crass comment has made it to publication. I really expect better for my subscription. Disgraceful.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
1 year ago

I have worked in a couple of major UK cities.
A lot of Londoners from the East end always like to big up their connections to gangster, particularly the “twins” since the think it gives them credibility. They also thinks anyone who works for a living is a mug
In my current abode a lot of my colleagues form ethnic minorities boast about how connected they are to the city’s criminal gangs and what they know about who was responsible for this or the other hit
None of this has anything to do with poverty and everything to do with decay. Since the 60s Hollywood and television have glamourized gangsters and the idea of working hard to in order to get what you want is roundly ridiculed.

Last edited 1 year ago by Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
1 year ago

I have worked in a couple of major UK cities.
A lot of Londoners from the East end always like to big up their connections to gangster, particularly the “twins” since the think it gives them credibility. They also thinks anyone who works for a living is a mug
In my current abode a lot of my colleagues form ethnic minorities boast about how connected they are to the city’s criminal gangs and what they know about who was responsible for this or the other hit
None of this has anything to do with poverty and everything to do with decay. Since the 60s Hollywood and television have glamourized gangsters and the idea of working hard to in order to get what you want is roundly ridiculed.

Last edited 1 year ago by Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

We are rapidly approaching the situation that fermented in Northern Ireland where when citizens find that recourse to the law is so impossible (or indeed expensive in Britain) that an ” alternative route” tempts. I am frankly suprised, given the state of our divorce laws, whereby the legal profession profit from stirring hatred, confrontation and adversity, that the alternative route is not far more of a problem, with lawyers as well as spouses the targets?

As the police become less interested, more corrupt, lazy and dishonest, ” taking the law into one’s own hands” will become a serious problem as an ever increasing number of immigrants from violent countries make themselves available at ever lower prices.
I see a follow on with tobacco smuggling, as ever further restrictions and price rises make tobacco an alternative gold mine to illegal narcotics.

Jeff Cunningham
Jeff Cunningham
1 year ago

Fukuyama describes the rise of the mafia in southern Italy in similar terms: the corruption and loss of the rule of law forcing people to take their injustices into their own hands, and the subsequent professionalization of gangs with the skills to act for them. (In “Political Order and Decay”.)

Last edited 1 year ago by Jeff Cunningham
Jeff Cunningham
Jeff Cunningham
1 year ago

Fukuyama describes the rise of the mafia in southern Italy in similar terms: the corruption and loss of the rule of law forcing people to take their injustices into their own hands, and the subsequent professionalization of gangs with the skills to act for them. (In “Political Order and Decay”.)

Last edited 1 year ago by Jeff Cunningham
Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

We are rapidly approaching the situation that fermented in Northern Ireland where when citizens find that recourse to the law is so impossible (or indeed expensive in Britain) that an ” alternative route” tempts. I am frankly suprised, given the state of our divorce laws, whereby the legal profession profit from stirring hatred, confrontation and adversity, that the alternative route is not far more of a problem, with lawyers as well as spouses the targets?

As the police become less interested, more corrupt, lazy and dishonest, ” taking the law into one’s own hands” will become a serious problem as an ever increasing number of immigrants from violent countries make themselves available at ever lower prices.
I see a follow on with tobacco smuggling, as ever further restrictions and price rises make tobacco an alternative gold mine to illegal narcotics.

D Glover
D Glover
1 year ago

But several organised crime sources have told me — all with the same sick, macabre pride — that they have groomed 12, 13 and 14-year-olds to do their dirty work

We’ve been told recently that we should be shocked that the police have been strip-searching children, sometimes without an appropriate adult present, and often Black kids.
Well, if the serious criminals are getting the ‘youngers’ to carry the drugs and the weapons, then don’t the police have a reason?

R S Foster
R S Foster
1 year ago
Reply to  D Glover

…of course they do, but polite society remain squeamish about accepting that young boys and girls can be both children…and vicious, lying little thugs at one and the same time…and of course, because they are “children”, the Police really don’t have the option of defending their conduct in the court of public opinion…
…nobody would publish a police claim that a teenage girl had form for concealing drugs in her body, and I’m not sure it would be legal to make it…

R S Foster
R S Foster
1 year ago
Reply to  D Glover

…of course they do, but polite society remain squeamish about accepting that young boys and girls can be both children…and vicious, lying little thugs at one and the same time…and of course, because they are “children”, the Police really don’t have the option of defending their conduct in the court of public opinion…
…nobody would publish a police claim that a teenage girl had form for concealing drugs in her body, and I’m not sure it would be legal to make it…

D Glover
D Glover
1 year ago

But several organised crime sources have told me — all with the same sick, macabre pride — that they have groomed 12, 13 and 14-year-olds to do their dirty work

We’ve been told recently that we should be shocked that the police have been strip-searching children, sometimes without an appropriate adult present, and often Black kids.
Well, if the serious criminals are getting the ‘youngers’ to carry the drugs and the weapons, then don’t the police have a reason?

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago

You end by blaming an “anaesthetised society and political class that witnesses such violence before quickly turning the page” but what would you have society and the political class do? You offer no solutions. Based on your article the only possible solution I can find would be the elimination of single mothers.

tim richardson
tim richardson
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Ha!

tim richardson
tim richardson
1 year ago
Reply to  William Shaw

Ha!

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago

You end by blaming an “anaesthetised society and political class that witnesses such violence before quickly turning the page” but what would you have society and the political class do? You offer no solutions. Based on your article the only possible solution I can find would be the elimination of single mothers.

Gordon Arta
Gordon Arta
1 year ago

Anyone any idea on which planet is this poverty-stricken Britain, suffering from nationwide nihilism, infested with shifty middle classes in its dark underbelly, and an anaesthetised society and political class which don’t want to recognise the mayhem on their streets of shoulder to shoulder hitmen of all ages roaming unhindered?

Gordon Arta
Gordon Arta
1 year ago

Anyone any idea on which planet is this poverty-stricken Britain, suffering from nationwide nihilism, infested with shifty middle classes in its dark underbelly, and an anaesthetised society and political class which don’t want to recognise the mayhem on their streets of shoulder to shoulder hitmen of all ages roaming unhindered?

Matt M
MM
Matt M
1 year ago

Could have been interesting but ruined by left-wing idiocies about grooming gangs, Boris and “poverty stricken Britain”.

Matt M
Matt M
1 year ago

Could have been interesting but ruined by left-wing idiocies about grooming gangs, Boris and “poverty stricken Britain”.

Peter Shaw
Peter Shaw
1 year ago

When they abolished capital punishment in the UK, the public was re-assured that the murder rate would go down, and those convicted of murder would never be released. More lies.

Billy Bob
BB
Billy Bob
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter Shaw

The murder rate did go down, it’s only recently started climbing again

Matt M
Matt M
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Homocides per year – England and Wales 1960-2020 (capital punishment abolished 1965)
1960: 282
1970: 396
1980: 626
1990: 661
2000: 761
2002: 1046 (all time high – includes Harold Shipman’s 172 known victims)
2010: 642
2020: 574

Last edited 1 year ago by Matt M
Matt M
Matt M
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Homocides per year – England and Wales 1960-2020 (capital punishment abolished 1965)
1960: 282
1970: 396
1980: 626
1990: 661
2000: 761
2002: 1046 (all time high – includes Harold Shipman’s 172 known victims)
2010: 642
2020: 574

Last edited 1 year ago by Matt M
Billy Bob
Billy Bob
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter Shaw

The murder rate did go down, it’s only recently started climbing again

Peter Shaw
Peter Shaw
1 year ago

When they abolished capital punishment in the UK, the public was re-assured that the murder rate would go down, and those convicted of murder would never be released. More lies.

Jürg Gassmann
Jürg Gassmann
1 year ago

Thank you

Jürg Gassmann
Jürg Gassmann
1 year ago

Thank you