Giles Fraser is right that the nuclear family emerged from very specific economic and social circumstances, and the nuclear family is not the standard mode presented in the Bible. However the idea that the table of the Lord includes people in unrepentant sin (the emphasis being on unrepentant) and without being of one faith is ludicrous and incoherent. Fellowship is predicated on union with Christ.
The Bible goes on constantly about the importance of the tribe, of the extended family, of the holiness of the marital bed. Christianity extends that tribe in a spiritual sense to include all the baptised faithful, it does not mean that gay men who have infected each other with HIV via sodomy are ‘closer’ to what Jesus had in mind for a so-called family. Such blindness, from a spiritual leader no less.
Giles, you’re as guilty as ‘conservatives’ in making the biblical message in your own likeness.
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Alex Camm
3 years ago
An incomplete argument cherry picking certain verses to suit,
Ignores the injunction at the creation for man and woman to become ‘one’.
Jesus widening of the description of family is not a rejection of marriage between man and woman
Presenting Paul as ‘against’ marriage when he talks about the sanctity of mutual submission of man and wife.
Not sure what you are trying to achieve here
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Giles Fraser is right that the nuclear family emerged from very specific economic and social circumstances, and the nuclear family is not the standard mode presented in the Bible. However the idea that the table of the Lord includes people in unrepentant sin (the emphasis being on unrepentant) and without being of one faith is ludicrous and incoherent. Fellowship is predicated on union with Christ.
The Bible goes on constantly about the importance of the tribe, of the extended family, of the holiness of the marital bed. Christianity extends that tribe in a spiritual sense to include all the baptised faithful, it does not mean that gay men who have infected each other with HIV via sodomy are ‘closer’ to what Jesus had in mind for a so-called family. Such blindness, from a spiritual leader no less.
Giles, you’re as guilty as ‘conservatives’ in making the biblical message in your own likeness.
An incomplete argument cherry picking certain verses to suit,
Ignores the injunction at the creation for man and woman to become ‘one’.
Jesus widening of the description of family is not a rejection of marriage between man and woman
Presenting Paul as ‘against’ marriage when he talks about the sanctity of mutual submission of man and wife.
Not sure what you are trying to achieve here