April 5, 2021 - 4:05pm

At one moment during our fascinating conversation (interview out tomorrow 4pm UK time), I had a sudden realisation that YouTube star and interviewer Dave Rubin was sounding like a man with political ambitions. So I asked him outright. His comments don’t quite add up to a declaration that he is going to run for Governor of California, but there’s clearly some thinking going on in that direction. We’ve pasted the exchange below so you can make your own mind up.

Thanks to Dave for a great chat — don’t miss the full LockdownTV episode tomorrow…

TRANSCRIPT: IS HE GOING TO RUN?

FS: I suddenly thought – he’s going to run! Dave Rubin is going to become a politician. Tell me if there’s any truth in that? 

DR: There’s not no truth in it. But it is not my preferred way about doing this. I like communicating ideas… So look, we’re recalling Gavin Newsom, our Governor here in California… Basically, I hope that someone good will run… I hope that we get some decent people and I’ll raise money for them and all that. Do I particularly want to go into politics? You know it’s an evil game.

FS: Is it fair to say you’re thinking about it? In relation to that race?

DR: Look, it sits there because people ask me about it. And I think for now, at least for now, I mean this is truly the truth —

FS: If there’s a big announcement next week I’m going to be really upset, Dave. You’ve got to tell us now… 

DR: If there’s a big announcement next week, I will email you beforehand.

FS: Okay, well, “There’s not no truth in it”, I believe was the phrase. I think the technical term for that is a non-denial-denial, ladies and gentlemen.

DR: My God, that sounds like an answer of a politician, Jesus.


is the Editor-in-Chief & CEO of UnHerd. He was previously Editor-in-Chief of YouGov, and founder of PoliticsHome.

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